GC Minutes WDR

Group Conscience Minutes for the We Do Recover Phone Meeting

Group Conscience (GC) meetings for the We Do Recover group are on the 20th day of the month at 6:00 PM EST on phone line: +1.641.715.3650 access code: 107678#.

This page contains the Group Conscience minutes for the We Do Recover phone meeting starting from December 20th, 2014. Each new month is added at the top of the file.

Agenda items can be added by sending email To: agenda-wdr@ma-phone.org


Business Mtg WDR 11/20/17

Prayer

Attendees:

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Reports

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Old Business

  1. reword special announcement for mtgs w/o chair to read anyone can “open” the meeting with preamble vs “lead” meeting… and no clean time required…some confusions have arose (zeus)
    • tabled in September due to running out of time.
    • ?
  2. cease “call and response” method of serenity prayer at “we do recover” meetings…as we are actually attempting to replicate what newcomers may find at land meetings… serenity prayer in unison…(zeus)
    • out of time in Sept, tabled  to Oct.
  3. add “keep coming back and bring a newcomer” to script…(zeus)
    • out of time, tabled to Oct meeting
  4. Motion (Micah S.) Proposal to Upgrade the WDR Free Conference Call Service. More info here.

New Business

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Business Mtg WDR 10/20/17

Opened with the Serenity Prayer

Attendees:  Zeus, Jennifer, Marianne, Mark, Darlene, Jesse, Davy O, Leslie, Laura, Marcy, Micah S, Desiree

Reports:

Jesse 10 pm, meditation mtgs are often unchaired, will keep doing them as needed.

Darlene chairing 2nd, 4th Thursday 10 pm, Questions and Traditions, need 1st, 3rd, 5th covered.  Could stay a little longer past 90 commitment.

Micah chairing Monday 10 am, varying degrees of attendance, some come on about 20 mins into the mtg.  No one volunteers to be a speaker at the mtg, will reach out and set up speakers in advance.

Zeus chairing the People of Color mtg on Thursday 10 am, people are showing up and participating.  Also Thursday 10 pm was enriching last night!  New Format is working to read the preamble and kick off the mtg and ask who wants to share next if there is no chair.  Someone coming on the line to chair on Saturday and every other Monday.  Wednesday needs chair.

Darlene asked about Chairing needs:
Wed. @ 10 am
Sat. @ 10 am every other
Thurs. @ 10 pm 1st, 3rd, 5th
Tues. @ 10 am
Sat  @ 10 pm

Mark read the minutes from last month

Clarify burning desire share or people who do not share often.  Highlighted in Orange by Mark.

Marcy spoke on vulnerability on the line and muting the line if there is a disruption, maybe members who have the leader code could do so even if they aren’t chairing?

Old Business

2.  Nov. 14 Anniversary Ideas

Announce it, get speakers
Theme, how long, Ad hoc mtgs?
Do we have enough time to plan?
The steps in our recovery?

Desiree suggested a week long celebration and having speakers for each day to speak on how WDR has influenced their recovery!  Accepted by all!

Jennifer can chair Tuesday the 14th

Chairs will ask speakers to share 10-15 mins (or Chair can share if they can’t find a speaker) after burning desire/those who don’t regularly share time.  Varying times of recovery.  Followed by Sharing from the floor.

Discussion will continue through email!  Please Txt your email address to Zeus.

Closed with We version of the Serenity Prayer

End of minutes for Oct 20, 2017

Original Agenda for Oct 20, 2017

Old Business?

  1. reword special announcement for mtgs w/o chair to read anyone can “open” the meeting with preamble vs “lead” meeting… and no clean time required…some confusions have arose (zeus)
    • tabled in September due to running out of time.
    • ?
  2. cease “call and response” method of serenity prayer at “we do recover” meetings…as we are actually attempting to replicate what newcomers may find at land meetings… serenity prayer in unison…(zeus)
    • out of time in Sept, tabled  to Oct.
  3. add “keep coming back and bring a newcomer” to script…(zeus)
    • out of time, tabled to Oct meeting

New Business

  1. Motion (Micah S.) Proposal to Upgrade the WDR Free Conference Call Service. More info here.
  2. ?

GC Meeting 9/20/17

Participants:

Mika ; Mark D. ; Marianne; Chet; Darlene; Zeus; Jennifer; Jesse ; Davy O’ ;

Agenda

Old Business

  1. Chairpersons
    • Jess (Morroco) is chairing Sunday 3pm
    • Need every other Thursday 10pm (Darlene has 2 &  4)
    • Mon 10am, Micah, reports it is going well
    • Wed 10a, Chet, going well. Will be vacant on Nov 1st
    • Thu 10am, Zeus, POC. going well
  2. Recruiting new chair people outside of the MA phone community boundary. (zeus)
    • still tabled

New Business

  1. hold 15 min space at beginning of mtg for burning desire and for those who don’t ever get chance to speak at meeting…others use 15 min for quiet meditative pause otherwise…then continue meeting in usual way… (Zeus)
    • Motion by Jennifer: Add to the script, at  beginning of sharing, “Does anyone have a desire to use marijuana or are struggling in recovery today that would like to share now.” 2nd by Chet. No opposition, passed by acclimation. [Action: Mark will update the WDR script.]
  2. propose 6 hour MA meeting marathon for upcoming 6 year group anniversary tuesday november 14 10a – 4p…(newcomer speakers (90 days and under); (speakers over 90 days -5 years); (speakers 5 years and longer)…(zeus)
    • Motion by Jesse JM, 2nd by Zeus to have a marathon anniversary celebration date & time TBD. No opposition, passed by acclimation. [Action: Zeus & Jesse JM will lead the organizing effort
  3. reword special announcement for mtgs w/o chair to read anyone can “open” the meeting with preamble vs “lead” meeting… and no clean time required…some confusions have arose (zeus)
    • out of time, tabled
  4. cease “call and response” method of serenity prayer at “we do recover” meetings…as we are actually attempting to replicate what newcomers may find at land meetings… serenity prayer in unison…(zeus)
    • out of time, tabled
  5. add “keep coming back and bring a newcomer” to script…(zeus)
    • out of time, tabled

 


GC Meeting 8/20/17

Participants:

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Agenda

Old Business (Carried Over from last month)

  1. (Beth) Do we need to create a chairperson coordinator service position to facilitate recruitment and placement of chairpeople?
  2. (Beth) Do we need to evaluate the schedule and possibly eliminate any poorly attended meetings? I am having the Th/S late night meetings in mind, but others can be addressed as necessary. I am thinking those with less than 5 people on the regular. (On a sidenote, how can I check the meeting’s attendance?)(Miriah) I would like to submit an agenda item to discuss if the 10 am phone meeting has enough attendance to continue.
  3. (Beth) Do we want to consider making a time commitment for chairpeople such as 1-3 months?
    1. Tabled

New Business

  1. Revisit the “person lead the meeting clause…” and notice its w/o clean time requirement. (zeus)
  2. Recruiting new chair people outside of the MA phone community boundary. (zeus)
    1. tabled
  3. Inquire as to how 10am mtgs are moving forward with new temporary system… (zeus)

 


GC Meeting 7/20/17

Agenda

Old Business

  1. (Beth) Do we need to create a chairperson coordinator service position to facilitate recruitment and placement of chairpeople?
  2. (Beth) Do we need to evaluate the schedule and possibly eliminate any poorly attended meetings? I am having the Th/S late night meetings in mind, but others can be addressed as necessary. I am thinking those with less than 5 people on the regular. (On a sidenote, how can I check the meeting’s attendance?)(Miriah) I would like to submit an agenda item to discuss if the 10 am phone meeting has enough attendance to continue.
  3. (Beth) Do we want to consider making a time commitment for chairpeople such as 1-3 months?

New Business

  1. Revisit the “person lead the meeting clause…” and notice its w/o clean time requirement. (zeus)
  2. Recruiting new chair people outside of the MA phone community boundary. (zeus)
  3. Inquire as to how 10am mtgs are moving forward with new temporary system… (zeus)

 

 

 


GC minutes 6/20/17

Agenda

New Business

  1. (Beth) Do we need to create a chairperson coordinator service position to facilitate recruitment and placement of chairpeople?
  2. (Beth) Do we need to evaluate the schedule and possibly eliminate any poorly attended meetings? I am having the Th/S late night meetings in mind, but others can be addressed as necessary. I am thinking those with less than 5 people on the regular. (On a sidenote, how can I check the meeting’s attendance?)(Miriah) I would like to submit an agenda item to discuss if the 10 am phone meeting has enough attendance to continue.
  3. (Beth) Do we want to consider making a time commitment for chairpeople such as 1-3 months?

Attendance:

Jennifer, Zeus, Mark, Beth, Desiree, Darlene, Marianne, Christine, Miriah

Minutes read from 5/20 and accepted

H&I report, 23+ people attended, really attentive, a lot of acknowledgement, shaking heads and sharing.  Got started a little late due to forgetting phone but got info from counselors, talked with the director who’s very excited we bring the MA mtg.  On the calendar for next month!

Old business:
Created a special announcement.  Much discussion and support from the floor, wording to be as follows:

Special Announcement: If you enter a call and there is not a chair, we suggest that anyone who is clean from drugs and alcohol and has attended at least 6 meetings may lead the meeting by reading or asking someone to read the Preamble, 12 Steps, 7th tradition, which can be found in the book Life With Hope pg. XV, the MA app or website and begin sharing.

Announcement will be placed after the preamble in the WDR script and on the home page.

Discussion on attendance for Saturday night, some interference on the line, chair had to call back in.  2 attendees last week, prior no one called in.  Question, how long should a chair stay on and listen to the music?

New Business agenda to be moved to next month under old business.

Closed with We version of the serenity prayer, meeting ran over.

 


GC minutes 5/20/17

Attendees: Jennifer, Zeus, Christine

Minutes from 4/20 read and accepted

Report from H&I VA commitment. 23 people, mtg went well. Discussion on clean time being earned not just given out, the same way service people give out ranks. Lots of sharing in the room, engaging mtg. Cards with the WDR phone # were given out. Welcomed and great experience.

Old Business:

Motion on the floor by Jennifer to accept Policies and Procedures, seconded by Zeus. Motion passed.

New Business from agenda:
1. Wesley stepping up to chair Tuesdays.

2. Discussion on what to do if you relapse while chairing. Possible topic for Lunch Bunch, regular mtg to support conversations about relapse, reach out to other chairs for support were some ideas. No system to manage it yet. Make an announcement about pulling up script to start chairing if the mtg has no chair. Land mtgs in NY May be able to help?

3. Complete

4. Note to Mark, Amend the script to close the mtg, with the “We version of the Serenity Prayer together in unison” which was voted on previously by GC.
[update from Mark D: Script updated 20170606.]

5. 12 Topics for chair to pick from instead of leaving it open topic on Wednesday. Possible lunch bunch discussion. Some ideas for the next one: What to do when you relapse and are chairing, Getting Chairs, 12 Topics for Wed., Attracting Newcomers/people to service.

 


Learning Day 4/15/17

Attendees: Zeus, Jennifer, Lisa, Christine, Jesse, Darlene, Marianne, Annie, Wesley

Secretary: Jennifer

We Do Recover Policies and Procedures Review, presented by Zeus

Add Wed. Open Topic to meetings

IV. Discussion about announcing other group meetings for the addicts still suffering. Noted their is a place in the script for any MA related announcements and anyone is welcome to make an announcement. WDR sticks to the tradition of attraction not promotion.

VII. Add in language of “actively seeking a sponsor?

VIII. Discussion about the time of the GC. Possibilities of having the GC, connected to regular mtg times?
The date floats, may make it difficult to attend? Consider changing the time/floating date?

Noted the date was originally created to rotate so people could attend and the time to include consideration for all time zones.

Discussion on the item having to attend 2 GC of the last 6 to vote. Discussion on what is a home group and that those who regularly attend the GC and provide service at WDR be the members voting.

Discussion on adding guidelines to find a replacement to chair the mtg or have a coordinator service position?

IX. Unanimous support for creating a Spiritual Greeter position with no clean time requirement to arrive 10 mins before the meeting and welcome people to the meeting! Great to get involved with GC, reporting in.

X. Discussion on having Meeting Readers for specific meetings, no clean time requirement. Possible 1 month position. People spoke about how reading helped to make them more comfortable and be a part of MA. Some questions about having it be service position rather than asking for readers at the mtg?

XI. Point of information about Interuptions? Why have 2 steps rather than just clearing the line? Discussion in support of using the language clear the line rather than muting the line. Noted having 2 steps was a courtesy to let people know to mute before clearing the line as sometimes people have trouble muting or unmuting.

XII. Spiritual Timekeeper position is going well, no clean time requirement. Great service opportunity, service keeps us sober.

XIII. Discussion to change clean time to 1 year for taking a hospital or institution commitment. WDR currently has a monthly commitment with the VA hospital. Further discussion in support of bringing members with less sobriety to commitments and asking them to check in with their sponsors about attending.


2. Discussion on sticking to the script/topic of the meeting. Be mindful, how to serve, what’s my part as the chair, what if the chair relapses. Important for the chair to give a topic rather than leaving an open topic.

What about incidents where there is a topic but you can’t share specifically on that, sharing may release something. Noted that yes there is always room to share what you need to for your recovery. But it is important to stick to the script or set topic of the meeting you are chairing and not change to something else.

3. Discussion on writing down names for yourself as a chair so you can thank people who share and do service by name. If you forget please thank everyone who shared or did service during the closing. Suggestion to say if I overlooked anyone blame it on my head not my heart?

4. Discussion on various questions to learn more about what cross talk is and what the chair can do when they hear it.

It has been an issue, referring to other peoples shares or names.

It is important even in the after meeting to be mindful and and ask people first before commenting on or referring to their shares. Important to give another a person a choice to say yes or no in response. During the meeting it’s important to speak from your own experience strength and hope. Someone may inspire your share, but as a chair or member be mindful to model no cross talking.

What if some is sharing I feel a lot of fear. Is saying I feel a lot of fear too, cross talking? Noted that fear is something many if us feel in recovery but there is a way to share it from your own experience, maybe leave out the too or also. We are all learning to do better!

Are we talking symantics [sic], we are often inspired by others and may innocently crosstalk. What are the parameters?

Important to check your pull to fix people or be helpful. As the chair it’s important to slow down, it’s a mindfulness exercise. Be mindful asking questions, am I crossing a boundary?

Sometimes crosstalk may come from wanting people to go deeper, or suggest things, but this might not be the right thing to do, people need to come into their own. Being in the program is like a discipline, it’s good.

Discussion on why we don’t crosstalk at meetings and peoples experiences.

Makes you squirm in your seat when people make comments, feel singled out, don’t feel safe.

It happens at land meetings, could happen anywhere. If you don’t like the group you don’t want to go.

When there is no policing you feel uncomfortable.

Important to stay safe and comfortable.

As a chair I can’t see you, I only have listening so I have to amp up listening. And when you hear it reread the crosstalk clause. If you are at the meeting ask the chair to reread.

You can bring up the topic of crosstalk after the mtg.

Talk to your sponsor.

People learn by modeling. We are modeling new policies and best practices. Reiterate the topic. We are here to offer a clear message of recovery.

Discussion on what to do with questions during the meeting. Say there is time after the meeting for questions. Make note of the questions do you can answer after the meeting.

What about leaving phone #’s during the meeting? Was helpful to one person who got a call after leaving their #. But how do we consider the group if everyone wanted to leave their number during the meeting?

Refer to yourself as the chair, rather than host, teacher, leader for clarity do there is no confusion. The host is the free conference call.

Discussion of why we keep it simple (thank you for sharing) and don’t congratulate on clean time until the anniversary celebration. Can become cross talk. Chairs sometimes get the time wrong or mixed up. People have developed hurt feelings, resentment of shame around saying their clean time.

If there is a difficult share, your response is the same. People need to feel safe to express themselves with out feed back/crosstalk! You may be muted clapping or weeping but don’t give advice! Go to your sponsor to talk about it!

Discussion on whether texting during the meeting is cross talk? It’s communication on the side. There have been problems with people sending texts that are not appreciated. It’s difficult to address.

You could say Someone just texted me that they didn’t like my share and ask the chair to reread the crosstalk clause.

We can’t control the outside getting texts, but may need to be addressed with the group by being proactive. Maybe adding into public space info.

Maybe we could say be mindful of people in the meeting proper.

It’s addressed in the crosstalk clause.

Maybe add texting into the clause with outside conversations?

*By GC this presentation went to the close of the meeting and the section on Starting A Mtg in Your Area was postponed for the next Learning Day (date to be announced)

We version of the serenity prayer to close!


GC minutes for 4/20/17

Attendees: Marianne, Bernard, Zeus, Christine, Jennifer

Minutes from 3/20 read and motion passed to accept

Report on Hospital and Institutions by Zeus. VA hospital commitment. People interested in how debilitating marijuana could be. Sharing from the floor. 15 people, mixed gender attended. Arrived on time. 3rd Thursday next month. People have come to land meetings and remembered the WDR commitment! Motion passed to accept the report.

Report on minutes from the learning day lunch bunch by Jennifer. Motion passed to accept the report.

Discussion on how we could get information out on how to chair a meeting. Discussion on what we would be voting on tonight, whole policies & procedures vs breaking it down into parts. It was suggested to vote on the policies and procedures as whole. Some discussion on getting more group member participation and how that has been difficult. Jennifer made a motion to accept the Policies & Procedures document. There was no second. Tabled until 5/20.


Minutes of Combined Group Conscience / Business Meetings

Each new month is added below this line.


GC WDR April 20th, 2017

Participating

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Agenda

  1. URGENT!! immediate suggestions of bi-wkly chair for tuesday “step meeting” [zeus w.]
  2. amend group policy and procedure doc (permanently suspend conf. call * functions that distract from contribution to clear message of MA recovery; as trusted servant, what to do if you relapse while chair; waiving clean time requirement for service when prudent [the whats so] [zeus w.]
  3. learning day report back; vote on policy and procedures doc [zeus w.]
  4. schedule date for We Do Recover meeting script review; updates; revisions [zeus w.]
  5. create list of 12 topics for wednesday “open topic” meeting use [zeus w.]
  6. attracting newcomers and new people to service…where are we today [zeus w.]
  7. add announcement of upcoming may 2017 maws conference [zeus w.]
  8. planning next we do recover “learning day”
  9. ?

GC WDR March 20th, 2017

Participating

Zeus, Jennifer, Cheryl

Agenda

  1. Discussion on changing Thursday 10pm focus to include the 12 Questions.  Jennifer made a motion to change the the focus to a 12 Traditions and 12 Questions mtg.
    • Motion passed.
    • Please add to the website.
  2. Motion passed to add to the announcements.  “There will be a We Do Recover Learning Day Lunch Bunch on Saturday April 15th from 11:30-2:30.  Please bring a lunch to the phone line and share in discussion on policies, procedures and best practices for the WDR group.  All are welcome!”
  3. Motion to table *2 and attendance notification process indefinitely.  The issue was voted on previously.
  4. Discussion to bring back the spiritual timekeeper service position.  Excellent idea, there are no requirements for clean time to do that service.  Motion passed to add to the WDR script before sharing “We need a Spiritual Timekeeper, is anyone willing to do that service?”  (Chair pause, remind people there is no clean time requirement, remind the timekeeper to start with 4 minute shares, a “1 minute” signal to wrap up and “time” at the end.). After claiming your seat add (Please remind the timekeeper of 3 minutes shares now).

GC WDR February 20th, 2017 – CANCELLED

Participating

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Agenda

  1. WDR needs quarterly (January to April) chair for GC meeting. Is anyone available for this service position?
  2. (Davy O) enable *2 for participant count
  3. Discuss options for creating an attendance notification process
  4. Bring back the Spiritual Timekeeper service position
  5. (Marianne)  Motion to add a line to the meeting script announcements :
    “Please note, there are many other Marijuana Anonymous phone meetings available, on three different phone lines, hosting at least 3 meetings every day. Please see ma-phone.org for the complete list of times and phone numbers.”
  6. (Status check) (Zeus) Motion for a Learning Day to discuss policies & procedures for WDR group. A date is TBD. Motion passed. Zeus will send a Google Doodle poll to inquire about date for learning group.
  7. (Ariel) rename Thursday 10pm mtg to “12 Questions” mtg.
  8. ?

GC WDR January 20th, 2017

Participating

Mark D., Jennifer

New Business

  1. WDR needs quarterly (January to April) chair for GC meeting. Is anyone available for this service position?
    • tabled
  2. Motion to review meeting schedule to determine which meetings are open or  closed. Other updates may also be needed. The MAWS mtg list is here. (Requested by Ariel and Mark D.
    • all meetings are open
    • room for discussion regarding “type”
  3. (add for next month, Davy O) enable *2 for participant count
  4. (for next month) Review previous tabled items to be included in Feb. GC.

GC WDR December 20th, 2016

Participating

Jennifer, Mark D., Darlene, Davy O, Zeus, Ariel,

New Business

  1. Motion to add this announcements:
    On Saturday, January 14th at 2pm EST on the WDR phone line, 1.641.715.3650 Code 107678#, we’ll finalize the plan for enhancing our Outreach logistics with the MAWS “Contact Us” phone line.
    • strike the word “finalize”
    • No decision was made
  2. Motion to review meeting schedule to determine which meetings are open or  closed. Other updates may also be needed. The MAWS mtg list is here. (Requested by Ariel and Mark D.
    • tabled
  3. ?

 


Special 12/4/16 WDR GC

Participating:

Zeus, Teresa, Morgan, Darlene, John, DavyO, Marianne

New Business:

Marianne asked that a line be added to the WDR script to notify members of extra meetings to be offered on Dec 24, 25, 31 and Jan. 1, and a line asking for volunteers to chairs these meetings.
Motion (Zeus) : To table the issue until the next GC on Dec 20.
No second.
Motion (Morgan): To adopt the wording into the script during the month of Dec. 2016.
Second: (Darlene)
In favor: 5
Opposed: 0
Abstained: 0

November 20th, 2016

Participating (present for meeting):

Zeus, Jennifer, Mark D., Marianne, River, Ariel, Davy O, Darlene, Taylor

Old Business

  1. Designate Sat 10pm topic as “relapse prevention.”
    • tabled
  2. Discuss creating policies & procedures, GSR, secretary
    • (Zeus) Motion for a Learning Day to discuss policies & procedures for WDR group. A date is TBD. Motion passed. Zeus will send a Google Doodle poll to inquire about date for learning group.
  3. Discuss options for creating an attendance notification process
    • tabled.
  4. Bring back the Spiritual Timekeeper service position
    • tabled.

New Business

  1. change the Thursday night meeting at 10pm to a workbook study meeting (Ariel)
    • (Ariel) motion to convert Thursday 10pm mtg to Traditions meeting. Zeus amended to read Tradition paragraph by paragraph with support from dictionary. Motion passed.
  2. MA World Services Outreach Committee 800 number voice mail (more info)(Mark D.)
    • Mark D. will reply to MAWS Outreach trustee to find a time for a mtg to gather further information
  3. Motion to add a line to the meeting script announcements :
    “Please note, there are many other Marijuana Anonymous phone meetings available, on three different phone lines, hosting at least 3 meetings every day. Please see ma-phone.org for the complete list of times and phone numbers.” (Marianne)

    • tabled

October 20th, 2016

Participating (present for meeting):

Zeus, Jennifer

Old Business

  1. can we revisit conversation of saturday 10p mtg as “relapse prevention” mtg topic format
    • Table relapse prevention for Saturday mtg until next month, for more input.
  2. begin the conversation of  creating policies n procedures practices for wdr n grp
    • Discussion on creating new policies n procedures for WDR group.  Creating a district?  Ideas for policies.  Having a GSR, secretary, etc would be helpful to the group.   Each group is autonomous, except when it affects MA as a whole.  Larger MA is supportive of WDR phone lines.  As GC further develops and grows how do we get more support of MAWS? Impacts of having more phone meetings developing on service?  Table for next month.
  3. draft an email “attendance confirmation” statement template for issuance to people requesting such a doc at any wdr mtg…
    • Suggestion to create a template for attendance confirmation requests.  Include:  date, time, WDR, topic, chairperson name.  Zeus will research google docs.  Jennifer will ask mark about creating an email address to send the template from.  Please add to agenda for next month.

New Business

  1. discuss a Marathon for the 5 year anniversary of We Do Recover group
    • Marathon for 5 year anniversary of WDR discussed.  Motion passed to add an announcement to the script to say “An anniversary planning meeting will be held on Sunday Oct.  30th after the morning meeting at 11am (after fellowship) to discuss the 5 year anniversary of the WDR group on Nov. 14th.  All are welcome to come!”
  2. New agenda item for next month:
    • bringing back the Spiritual Timekeeper service position

September 20th, 2016

Participating (present for meeting):

Zeus, Marianne, Jennifer, Mark D., Janine, Darlene

New Business

  1. add MA 4th town hall mtg info to script
    • RESOLVED: Moved to add the town hall meeting to announcements. Oct 1st, 1-3pm EST, 1-712-775-7031 and pin 877272#
  2. add burning desire space to mtg
    • TABLED: Discussion about need for and wording of how to ask. Voted to table for now.
  3. add if you have a year or more n are willing to sponsor clause to script
    • RESOLVED:  Motion was made to include a statement after the close if the meeting when asking if anyone would like to leave their phone # to say “if anyone is available to be a sponsor, who has worked the steps and has experience strength and hope to share please identify yourself as you share your number.” Motioned passed (1 opposed, 1 abstention, 4 yes)
  4. add MA convention 2017 info to script
    • RESOLVED: Motion passed to add Convention dates, location, and website.
  5. drop new saturday meeting info from script
    • RESOLVED: Motion passed to take off new Saturday mtg announcement.
  6. change mtg format (sunday) from open topic discussion to 11 Step Meeting on wdr mtg (sunday) format
    • RESOLVED: Motion passed to change Sunday 10am meeting focus from open topic to “11th Step meeting.”
  7. how do we begin new recruitment drive for wdr group
    • TABLED:
  8. can we revisit conversation of saturday 10p mtg as “relapse prevention” mtg topic format
    • out of time. will take this up in October
  9. begin the conversation of  creating policies n procedures practices for wdr n grp
    • out of time. will take this up in October
  10. draft an email “attendance confirmation” statement template for issuance to people requesting such a doc at any wdr mtg…
    • out of time. will take this up in October

 


August 20th, 2016

Participating (present for meeting):

Zeus, Barb, Mark D. Marianne

New Business

  1. Motion by Emily S. to reopen discussion regarding definition of sobriety for purpose of chairing meetings (submitted Aug 13).
    • tabled and dropped as sponsor didn’t advocate for the motion
  2. Motion by Jennifer F. to make an announcement letting people know that if there is no chair anyone is welcome to pull up the script and share.
    • tabled to consider over the next month
  3. ?

 


July 20th, 2016

Participating (present for meeting):

Zeus (moderator), Barb M., Marianne, Janine, Darlene, Jesse, Jennifer

Opened with serenity prayer

Attendance Report: None

Old Business

  1. Request for discussion of cross-talk violations
    • tabled due to lack of a sponsor
  2. Motion to reduce clean time required for chairing a meeting
    • tabled as person who sponsored no longer has the desire to pursue
  3. Motion to adopt process of stopping a meeting that is getting “out of hand” and pausing to say the Serenity Prayer.
    • Discussion followed by Jennifer making motion “Use “WE” version of serenity prayer to take a pause during meeting or business meeting if chairperson feels it is needed”.
    • No second to the motion. Did not pass.

New Business

  1. (submitted by Jennifer F.) Creating an annual meeting to have space to talk about grief/loss/death in recovery in honor of Trula.
    • Motion seconded by Marianne
      No objections. Barb and Darlene abstained.
      Motion passed!
  2. (submitted by Jennifer F.) What is sobriety, revisit the topic for chairing meetings.
    • Discussion followed by motion made by Jennifer that in our announcement part of WDR script it read “When you have at least 60 days clean from marijuana, alcohol and drugs, please consider chairing a meeting”.
    • Motion seconded by Jesse.
      No objections.
      Motion passed

Meeting was extended to 7:15 to accommodate additional discussion.

Closed with the serenity prayer at 7:15 pm

 


June 20th, 2016

Participating (present):

?

Agenda

  1. Motion for chairperson mentoring improvements
  2. Request for discussion of cross-talk violations
  3. Motion to reduce clean time required for chairing a meeting
  4. Motion to adopt process of stopping a meeting that is getting “out of hand” and pausing to say the Serenity Prayer.
  5. Motion by Mark D. to change Preamble to “people” rather than “men and women” per the decision of MAWS.

Pending receipt of Meeting Minutes

  1. Motion was passed setting Barb (in Maine) as Chairperson mentor
  2. no info
  3. no info
  4. no info
  5. Motion passed and script has been updated with “people.”

 

 


May 20th, 2016

Participating:

Zeus, Mark D., Jennifer, Barb, Mary Ann, Mike D., Lenora, Emily

Attendance Report:

?

Agenda

1. Change format at end of meetings for people with a burning desire.

(This was tabled last month due to no one knowing where it came from.)

Tabled: Discussion, but no recommendation for changing the script.

2. Motion for participation reports to be from the 1st of the month to end of the month, then submitted by the 13th of the following month.

Originally requested by Mark D.

Motion by Barb, 2nd by MIkeD.,  to keep attendance from 1st day of month to end of month then submit by the 13th of new month to web maintainer.

Passed by acclimation

3. Motion that unique connections be used for counting participation

Motion by Mark D., 2nd by Barb

Participation report will be forwarded from Zeus to Barb until end of year where Barb will extract unique connection counts.

Passed by acclimation

4. Motion that announcements include reference to WIR & MAWPM groups.

Motion by Mike D., 2nd by Barb to add “Are there any MA related announcements?” to the script.

passed by acclimation

5. Motion for a “chair coordinator” position be created.

Motion by Barb, 2nd Lenora

Passed by acclimation to create a “chairperson coordinator” position that would be responsible to ensure every meeting had a chairperson and that they understood how to chair meetings.

Chairperson volunteer commitment

  • Jennifer will be GC chair for the months: October, November, December
  • Available are July, August, September

New Business

  1. Motion for chairperson mentoring improvements
  2. Request for discussion of cross-talk violations
  3. Motion to reduce clean time required for chairing a meeting
  4. Motion to adopt process of stopping a meeting that is getting “out of hand” and pausing to say the Serenity Prayer.

 

 


April 20th, 2016

Participating:

Zeus, Jennifer, Mark D., John NC, Barb ME

Attendance Report:

?

Agenda

1. Change password for the WDR section of website ma-phone.org

Password was removed from GC Minutes & Chairperson pages

2. Change format at end of meetings for people with a burning desire.

tabled. no one spoke to the issue

3. End reading portion of Friday’s Story meeting by 25 minutes past the hour to allow plenty of time for sharing.

The 25 minutes is a goal left to discretion of the chair and the group conscience of the people in the meeting at the time. Also note, other readings (12 Q, 12 S, 12 P) are not required.

4. Proper Etiquette for critiquing someone’s service

  • Restated the Nov 20, 2015 motion for current host to mentor new hosts.
  • A workshop to develop mentoring tips would be nice, but nothing scheduled at this time.
  • Currently suggested process: new (want to be) host should shadow current host for at least two weeks. Then new host guides the meeting and after the meeting, on private line the old hosts will mentor the new host for at least two weeks.

Meeting closed and remaining agenda items moved to Next Month

5. Request for participation reports to be from the 1st of the month to end of the month, then submitted by the 13th of the following month.

6. Request that unique connections be used for counting participation

7. Request that announcements include reference to WIR & MAWPM groups.

8. Does the WDR group want to be included on flyer being produced for download from website ma-phone.org?

 


March 20th, 2016

Attending:

Barb, Zeus, Jennifer, Andy, John, Lenora and Jillian

Attendance Report:

Submitted by Zeus,  2016-WDR-Attendance-Feb-Mar

Agenda

There were no items to be voted on tonight’s meeting as there were none submitted 48 hours prior to the meeting.

Discussion #1: Barb inquired how and why the process of posting agenda items at the website changed. The items showed up in the WDR script under announcements but not at the WDR GC section of the website, as was the custom previously.

It was discussed that there was possibly a breakdown and that we would return to the way it was done previously. Barb would notify Mark.

Discussion #2: Jennifer gave an update on the Tuesday night working meeting and gave us some of the items that were being discussed for chairing the meetings and the concept of a Service Sponsor.

Jennifer asked to have conversation about changing day and time of the working group meeting if that would allow more people to attend.

Agenda Items for the following GC meeting on 4/20/16

1. Change password for the WDR section of website ma-phone.org
2. Change format at end of meetings for people with a burning desire.
3. End reading portion of Friday’s Story meeting by 25 minutes past the hour to allow plenty of time for sharing.
4. Proper Etiquette for critiquing someone’s service

Note: Barb was chair of the WDR meetings for the first quarter of 2016. Zeus will be the chair for the second quarter of 2016.

Submitted by Barb


February 20th, 2016

Participating: Zeus, Barb, Jennifer, Marcie

Attendance Report was submitted by Zeus 2016-WDR-Attendance-jan-feb

Report by Zeus: The meeting that is held at the Veterans Hospital by the We Do Recover Group on the third Thursdays of the month, attendance grew to 14 participants this last meeting.

1st Agenda Item – putting in the announcements that mobile apps are available.

Motion was made that the announcement should be on the ma-phone.org website in a visible place, and not announced daily.

Motion passed.

2nd Agenda Item: proposal to add a 10pm EST Saturday meeting starting tonight.

Motion was made to try a Saturday night meeting, starting Saturday, Feb, 27th for a 3 month trial period and that is be a topic meeting. Trial period to start beginning of March. Review relapse prevention in the future as a possible format for the meeting.

Motion passed.

Note: Marcie will host the meetings with Zeus’s support.

3rd Agenda item: remove a few announcements from the announcement section of script.

Motion made to remove two announcements, 1. The meetings needing support and 2. The Women’s meeting time change.

Motion passed.

4th Agenda Item: Report: Temporary Service Sponsor checklist being worked on On Tuesday evening 8 pm meetings.

Jennifer and Zeus gave an update on where they were to date with the checklist for new hosts. Some items being discussed are:

  1. Not congratulating shares on clean time
  2. The issue of crosstalk
  3. Chairperson should share last
  4. Chairs voice should not collide with the person sharing.

The group will continue to work on the checklist on Tuesday evenings at 8 pm EST. All are invited to attend.

5th Agenda Item: Chair for the 2nd quarter of the years group conscience meetings. Zeus volunteered.

Items that will be carried over to next meeting are:

  1. The importance of repeating mtg format during WDR meeting
  2. Actual MAWS conference dates May 27-30, 2016 ny/nj area

Respectfully Submitted
Barb M in Maine


January 20th, 2016

Participating

Lisa (chair); Jennifer (Scribe); Barb; Zeus;  Mark D.; Cheryl; Andy

1. Attendance Report

Meeting attendance document attached below.

Participation-WDR-2015-12

2. Motion to modify script to announce need for chair of 3rd Thursday morning mtg.

Passed; script will be updated by Mark D.

3. Motion to modify format of Sunday afternoon 3pm meeting to a meditation

Passed;

4. Motion: agenda items that require a vote must be submitted 48 hours prior to mtg. New agenda items can be introduced at the meeting but voting will be tabled until the next month

Passed;

Meeting end at top of the hour 🙂

 


December 20th, 2015

Participating:

Jennifer (chair); Mark D.; Barb ; Laura ; Zeus ; Andy ; Emily; Cheryl;

1. Attendance Report

Meeting attendance averages 25 M-F and averages 10 to 15 on weekends per Zeus

2. New Business Agenda

  1. Expand sobriety length down to 30 days (was 90) for people who qualify for 15 minutes to start the Monday Beginners meeting
    • Passed unanimously
  2. invite new chairs to attend one WDR business meeting prior to chairing WDR mtg
    • Discussion: trend toward “invitation” but not as far as “requirement.”
    • Tabled for consideration in January
  3. begin to announce MAWS 2016 conference information and where more details are on internet (http://mawsconference.org/)
    • Passed unanimously.
    • Zeus will provide information to Mark D for posting in phone scripts
    • There is currently an error on the website that Mark D. has reported
  4. discuss Thursday night meeting needs chairperson ASAP
    • Zeus reported that attendance has been up to 18, but only a few share
    • Emily volunteered for every other Thursday night beginning December 25th and continuing to end of February
  5. discuss rewrite of WDR script (i.e. updates & deletions)
    • Ran out of time so tabled.
    • If any corrections or additions are non-controversial, just let Mark D. know

New Business for January

  1. We need host for 3rd Thursday morning People of Color mtg
  2. Desire to change format of Sunday afternoon 3pm mtg to “meditation” meeting

 


November 20th, 2015

1. Attendance Report

pending

2. New Business:

Meeting led by Jen and opened with the Serenity Prayer

Present: Jen, Zeus, Mark, Barb, Andy

Item 1 ­ mentoring process for new hosts.

Discussion that the Tuesday night working group be used to develop a mentoring process, after the current project (POC Pamphlet) is done.

Anticipated that will be in January.

Item 2 ­ Tuesday’s Step Meeting

Motion: Starting with January’s Tuesday meetings, each week would be a new step; annually the steps would be repeated approximately 4x.

Motion made, seconded and 3 yes votes. Motion passed.

Item 3 ­ New host requirements

Propose that new hosts attend 2 group conscience meetings in addition to 60 days clean time to host. After some discussion, decided to table the discussion.

Item 4 ­ Questions being asked during meetings.

Discussion: all agreed that if someone asks the topic of meeting because they got on late and are wanting to share that we accommodate. All other questions are to be handled by saying “as a gentle reminder, was that all questions wait until the after meeting”.

Meeting closed with Serenity Prayer.


 

October 20th, 2015

1. Attendance Report

pending

2. Phone Script updated

 


 

September 20th, 2015

1. Attendance Report

Participation-WDR-2015-08

2. Other Business?


 

August 20th, 2015

1. Attendance Report  Participation-WDR-2015-07

2. Phone Number Exchange Disclaimer

We have found telephone contact with other MA members supportive to maintain sobriety between meetings.

For our phone number exchange, we ask everyone to be mindful about sharing their phone number in this public space and know that no one is required to give out number.

With this information in mind, any caller may offer their phone number in this public space. However, please do not request phone numbers.

If an early outreach call turns into a request for romance or finance, consider ending contact with that person.  Inappropriate incidents are infrequent, but they have happened.

Gather names and numbers from those who willingly share. We suggest that you listen to people for a few meetings before calling them.

As it states in our book, Life With Hope, “We are [each] responsible for our own recovery” and outreach calls (p. 3).

motion: append to the WDR script the phone number service disclaimer
passed by acclimation
action: Mark to update script

3. Follow-up on H&I:

Zeus attended today at a hospital today.
Handed out a “Welcome” chip
So far, carried the message that MA exists to 40 people
Next service in September 17th

4. Review of lightly attended meetings:

nothing to cancel at this time
suggestion that host should keep phone line active for the entire hour
read from conference-approved materials (LWH, Pamphlets, A New Leaf)
Use of *2 is disabled per June vote
Mark update WDR announcements to mention: Sun pm, Thu pm, Sun am Spiritual

5. PoC conversation

Taking up in Tuesday working 8pm eastern


July 20th, 2015

1. Attendance report (Zeus):  20150720-MA-WDR-Attendance

2. Phone Number Exchange:

Read the “[in development]” paragraphs from the MAWPM phone script.
Further editing to be done at the working group meeting on Tues 8pm EST

3. Follow-up on H&I:

Tabled

4. Review of lightly attended meetings:

Much discussion with approved Motion: 11th Step/Spirituality mtg is now on Sunday 10 am, Sunday afternoon is now Open Topic, Sunday afternoon needs a host or will be retired.

List of current WDR Chairpersons.

5. Caller Count for Chairpersons (*2):

The use of “*2” for admin connections was voted down in June

6. Change password for GC Minutes??

Tabled

 

 


June 20th, 2015

1. Attendance report (Zeus): 20150620-MA-WDR-Attendace

2. Cross-talk progress (Jennifer):

New paragraph added to bottom of script.

3. Phone Exchange (Laura):

New Business:

 


May 20th, 2015

Attendees:

Agenda

1.     Zeus – attendance report: 20150520-MA-WDR-Attendance
2.     Jennifer- cross-talk subcommittee report

New paragraphs approved and WDR phone script updated.

3.     motion to form subcommittee to define phone number exchange

Motion carried. A sub-committee will be created by Laura

4.     motion by Zeus: that only WDR announcements would be made

Motion defeated. Script continues with “Are there any MA-related announcements.”

5. motion to include ma-phone.org to WDR script

Motion carried. Script will be updated.

 


April 20th, 2015

Attendees:

Mark D in Midwest, Karen, Laura, Barb M in ME, TJ, Zeus, Trula, Desiree, DavyO, Chayton, Jennifer in MA, Keith, Antonia

Reading of last month’s Minutes

Meeting opened by Laura with with Motion to accept minutes for the March 20th meeting. Motion seconded and no objections were made.

Agenda Item 1.

Motion on Robert’s Rules of Order for Group Conscience meeting, version from the MAWS Service Manual ver 3.3, Chapter 16.  No objections, rules accepted with no vote.

Agenda Item 2.  Attendance Report:

Submitted by Zeus
Meeting Average: 26; Weekly Average: 305
Meeting Max: 48; Min: 10
Full Report linked here: 2015-04-20-MA WDR-Attendance

Agenda Item 3. Sub committee for defining crosstalk.

Potential meeting to be held 4/28.  Committee members are Jennifer, Mark, Trula and Zeus. Laura withdrew.  Additional volunteers were asked for. No one accepted.  Jennifer invited everyone who could to attend the meeting.

Agenda Item 4.  Friday night meeting: take off the schedule or new host.

Motion made to remove it from the schedule for now, it was seconded and there was no objection  to the motion.

Agenda Item 5.  Chair requirement be reduced to 60 days of clean time

Motion made and discussed. Vote:  11 yes votes, 1 abstained

Agenda Item 6. Vote by computer within 48 hours of GC meeting

Motion made and seconded, but tabled after discussion.

 In discussion it was brought to the group’s attention that we had just adopted Robert’s Rules of Order for group conscience meetings and that requires one to be present to vote.  After some discussion it was tabled for now.

Close of meeting

At 7:07 pm motion was made and seconded to end the meeting.  No objections.

 


 

March 20th, 2015

Attendees:

Mike in NC; Mark D in Midwest ; Zeus ; Chayton ; DavyO ; Jennifer in Mass ; Trula in AZ ; Linda ; Mary ; Laura ;

New Business:

## vote on Rules of Order for our GC meetings

http://www.ma-phone.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Rules-of-Order.pdf
tabled

## Attendance report by Zeus

March: 230 to 245 per week total ; avg/mtg: 25 ;
Highest: Thu: 40
Full Report linked here: 2015-03-20-MA-Phone-Attendance

 ##  Motion by Chayton: Add optional moment of silence at the end of the meeting.

vote: yes: 7; no: 3; carried
action: Mark will update phone script on website.

## Motion from Zeus: Make Saturday morning as a “Promises Meeting”

no opposition
action: Mark will update phone script & Calendar

## Motion by Jennifer: Create a time and sub-group for further discussion re: cross-talk

no opposition
Jennifer will lead sub-committee (Mark D; Zeus; Trula; Laura)

## request volunteers to chair group conscience meetings

April, May, June: Laura
July, Aug, Sep: Zeus
Oct, Nov, Dec: open

## determine officers for the MA Phone “district”; length of term; positions

tabled, people interested in this topic should read the Service Manual

##  motion by Chayton: Approve “At the Oasis” Step Workbook Workshop (current line)

vote: yes: 8; no:1
action: Mark will update announcements and calendar on website

## Motion to close the meeting at 18:48

vote: yes: 2; no: 6

## Motion by Mike: start a Friday night 10pm meeting focused on the steps

vote: yes: 7; abstain: 2
action: Chayton will be first meeting chairperson for at least 3 months
Mark will update calendar on website

## New Meeting: Tuesday night (time: TBD; focus: recovery toolkit)

tabled

## motion by Chayton to close at 20:07 CDT

no opposition, meeting closed


February 20th, 2015

Attendees:

Luara, Sara, Lisa, Mark D, Zeus, Mike in NC, Chayton, Trula, Jennifer in MA

Old Business:

  • clean time: occasional alcohol use
    • motion: The base requirement to chair meetings is continuous total sobriety from marijuana and alcohol for 90 days.
    • There was much discussion on both sides
      • the vote:
        • yes: 3
        • no: 5
        • abstain: 2
      • the motion did not carry which means a person who drinks alcohol occasionally and non-alcoholically can chair an MA phone meeting if they have 90 days weed free
  • No other Old Business was dealt with

New Business:

  • The suggestion for a website was made but Mark has already started this site.
  • Zeus cannot attend March GC mtg, Mike from NC stepped up to chair March 20th Biz mtg.

 Meeting adjourned about 7:30 pm est.


January 20th, 2015

Attendees:

Zeus, Sara, Davey O, Kayla, Mark D.

Read 1st of 12 Service Concepts (http://mawsconference.org/concepts-for-service)

Read minutes of last meeting and vote for acceptance.

  • moved to accept as read by Sara, second by Mark
  • no objections so accepted

Zeus asked for agenda items

  • Jennifer requested clarification on term “cross-talk”
  • Zeus opened discussion on “total sobriety” in two parts:
    • Davy O. made motion
    • 2nd by Zeus
    • motion: treat as two separate issues with regard to recommendations to chair phone mtgs:
      • occasional alcohol consumption
      • prescription medication use
      • voted:
        • Zeus Aye, Sara: aye , Davey O: aye, Cayla: yes, Mark D.: yes, Jennifer: yes;
      • motion carried

Discussion of occasional alcohol for co-chair

  • Zeus gave background:
    • Phone mtg starters had concept of “total sobriety” that was 100% abstinence from weed and alcohol
    • motion by Davey O
      • 100% abstinence from alcohol and weed required to be co-chair
    • Discussion
    • Davy moves to table until Feb 20th, 2nd by Zeus & Sara
    • No opposition, motion tabled

Prescription Medication

Script Modifications

  • motion to bring back draft to be approved on Feb 20th
  • Committee: Zeus, Sara, Jennifer, Mark
    • sub-committee to meet: Tuesday at Jan 27 at 7pm EST

Meeting closed with Serenity Prayer


 December 20th, 2014

Meeting time and frequency

  • Discussion re: date of quarterly meetings
    • Zues makes motion for same day number “20” @ 6pm est
    • Mark seconds motion for “20th”
    • aye: 3
    • nay: 0
    • Zues will chair monthly business meetings for the next quarter with Sara as backup thru March 20th
    • Service will be quarterly.

New Business:

what is “freedom from all mind-altering chemicals” ;

  • does this include beer? wine?
  • does this include prescription medications?
  • moved to table by Zues; 2nded by Mark ;

MA Phone fliers for annual conventions

  • Should we create an “attraction/promotional/information” piece to take to the MAWS convention? Everyone agreed in concept. Mark D. and Gloria from NY volunteered.

Script reworking

  • some discussion such as removing “District 8” and changing the address for mailing contributions.
  • Also verified keeping wording “No one is required to give out their number.”

Discussed briefly creating a district for the Phone Meetings

  • Mark D.: maybe, but it requires more people and more organization than we have now.
  • Zeus will look into the requirements

Suggested that the announcements include:

  • Please stay on the line after the call if you have interest in setting the time for evening meetings.